Susan here. Today we're chatting with NYT bestselling author Stephanie Dray about her novels, the Hamilton musical phenomenon, and her forthcoming book about Lafayette, America’s so-called favorite fighting Frenchman and his legacy; you'll also find a link below to enter a sweepstakes for a chance to win an advanced copy of the book. And be sure to visit the blog again tomorrow for a special treat--a cover reveal of the beautiful new cover!
Susan: Welcome to Word Wenches, Stephanie! I've read your novel My Dear Hamilton, co-authored with Laura Kamoie, and loved it--an impressive blend of natural characters, accurate history, and a fascinating plot based on actual events. You've said that the book was inspired in part by Lin-Manuel Miranda’s incredible musical. Tell us a little more about that.
Stephanie: Thank you for having me, and I’d be delighted to talk about that! In the wake of writing about Jefferson’s daughter in America's First Daughter, Laura and I were on the hunt for another founding mother to write about. Eliza Hamilton was on our shortlist when we were in NYC for a writer’s conference and to meet with our editor. Laura decided to take in the musical when it was new on Broadway, but I couldn’t go because I had preexisting dinner plans with dear friends (sorry friends, that was a mistake! I should have canceled. LOL). Anyway, Laura was blowing up my phone with texts from the musical and by the next morning she was telling me how amazing it was and that we had to write about Eliza Hamilton, and I agreed on the cab ride over to our publishers. That’s how fast My Dear Hamilton was born. And fortunately, I did eventually go with Laura to see it on Broadway with the original cast.
Susan: And what did you think?
Stephanie: I was blown away. At first I didn’t understand what I was seeing or hearing, it was so unexpected. But by the second number I was in tears because I understood right away that I was watching a transformative work of historical fiction.
Susan: Why do you think the musical has remained so popular and is experiencing a whole new level of enthusiasm?
Stephanie: A pandemic that has us housebound and cruising for content on Disney+ definitely helps! Just kidding. I think the musical was originally popular because it was written in an optimistic era. It was an open invitation for a whole new generation to see themselves in the American story and make it their own. I think now it's seeing a resurgence in popularity because we’re caught in a historical moment where we’re forced to ask ourselves: What is the American story really? The musical is layered enough to provide a couple of different answers as well as more questions!
Susan: How do Lafayette and the women in your new novel fit into that American story?
Stephanie: The scrappy American army made up of citizen farmers couldn’t win their independence without the help of the extremely powerful and professional French military. Full stop. That’s not so hard to understand or believe. But what is amazing and confounds historians to this day, is that a nineteen-year-old Frenchman is almost wholly responsible for the French-American alliance.
That was Lafayette--a knight-errant who fought one revolution and sparked another, breaking the chains of monarchy, and transforming the world. He was an idealist who was a founding father to not one, but two nations and was ultimately abandoned by both in his darkest hour. The only person who could save him then was his wife Adrienne, his dear heart, and she risked everything. Not just for him, but for his philosophies of liberty and humanism. He was a general who could wield a sword. All Adrienne had were connections, cunning, and courage. She’s easily the bravest historical heroine I’ve ever written about and that’s really saying something. Adrienne was the starting point of my novel, but soon I discovered that she wasn’t the only woman to defend Lafayette’s legacy…
Susan: And so your book is titled The Women of Chateau Lafayette.
Stephanie: Exactly! Long after Lafayette’s death, his chateau was in disrepair, the luster of his name long gone from France. And then along came World War I and Beatrice Chanler. This was an era in which, much like our own, Americans had to decide who they really were. And if they could really stay neutral when European democracies were under attack. Beatrice almost single-handedly revived Lafayette’s legacy, waving his memory like a banner to remind Americans of their own story and their role in the world.
And this happened again, at his castle in Chavaniac, in the next generation. As if woman after woman was passing Lafayette’s torch. And I realized what an extraordinary legacy that is in itself. To have a story that extends beyond the confines of your own biography--to have a name that other people invoke when doing important work. And I wanted to be a part of that legacy too.
Susan: The new books sounds amazing! When will it be released? We're getting a peek at the new cover tomorrow, here on the Wenches blog!
Stephanie: Yes! The book will be released from Penguin Random House on March 30, 2021, and the cover reveal is set for Tuesday, July 14--Bastille Day!
You can click here to enter a sweepstakes for a chance to win an ARC of the book and see the cover there tomorrow. It will also be posted here on the Wenches blog.
Susan: Thank you, Stephanie, it's a pleasure to chat with you, and what a treat to have an early look at the new cover tomorrow. Best of luck with the new book and all your books!
Please help us welcome Stephanie to the blog with your comments and questions for her -- and check back tomorrow to see the new cover!
Stephanie, welcome to the Word Wenches! THE WOMEN OF CHATEAU LAFAYETTe sounds amazing. In fact, all the stories you've found in history and launched into the present day are amazing. ("Lafayette, we are here!") Please keep doing what you're doing. *G*
Posted by: Mary Jo Putney | Monday, July 13, 2020 at 06:21 AM
xoxo Thank you Mary Jo, especially for brining up "Lafayette, we are here!" It's a very moving moment in the history of our two countries, and it comes up in the novel too. In World War II, Lafayette's chateau in Chavaniac served to shelter Jewish children from the Nazis. It's just amazing how these stories connect us all, generation after generation.
Posted by: Stephanie Dray | Monday, July 13, 2020 at 08:41 AM
Welcome, Stephanie! The Women of Chateau Lafayette sounds fascinating. If you could ask Lafayette or one of the three women a question, what would it be?
Posted by: Kareni | Monday, July 13, 2020 at 09:00 AM
I found this post very fascinating too. I've been interested in Lafayette since I read Alcott's Old Fashioned Girl when I was in grade school. The grandmother in that book rememebers meeting him and the story enthralled me. (Later I learned that this was one of the true bits if history from Louisa's May relatives).
Posted by: Sue McCormick | Monday, July 13, 2020 at 12:13 PM
Those sound like amazing stories, Stephanie! I had no idea Lafayette was so young when he rallied everyone. And how wonderful to leave such a legacy and to have descendants who carry it on! I look forward to seeing your new cover tomorrow.
Posted by: Christina Courtenay | Monday, July 13, 2020 at 12:29 PM
Stephanie, the fact that Lafayette's chateau sheltered Jewish children during WWII makes the story all the more powerful. It truly is amazing how young Lafayette was when he volunteered his services to the American revolution. A mere teenager who helped change the world.
Posted by: Mary Jo Putney | Monday, July 13, 2020 at 01:02 PM
Yes, when I think of what I was doing when I was nineteen... I was definitely a slacker.
Posted by: Stephanie Dray | Monday, July 13, 2020 at 03:04 PM
To think that someone could be a general at nineteen and actually be GOOD AT IT, and of such world consequence is a bit mind-boggling isn't it?
Posted by: Stephanie Dray | Monday, July 13, 2020 at 03:05 PM
Oh, that must have been for his 1824 tour?
Posted by: Stephanie Dray | Monday, July 13, 2020 at 03:06 PM
Oh goodness, I have so many questions it would be hard to narrow down. But I suppose the question I want to know the most, is probably for Beatrice Chanler, and I'd want to ask her precisely when her fascination with Lafayette began, and how it evolved into such a world-changing legacy of her own.
Posted by: Stephanie Dray | Monday, July 13, 2020 at 03:07 PM
I don't have specific facts, but I believe you are correct about the timing.
Posted by: Sue McCormick | Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 05:13 AM
Books such as yours and the Hamilton show are bringing history into easier understanding and more personal. We all took history classes in high school and many of them were quite dry, mostly book learned and we had to remember facts for those surprise quizzes.
I have not yet read any of your books but look forward to doing so. Thanks for the interview and all the best on your next book and adventure. I just saw the cover of the new book and it is lovely.
Posted by: Margot | Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 06:24 AM
First of all, Welcome. I looked at the cover. It is quite evocative. For me it represents a sense of tenderness and passing the gauntlet at the same time.
I have always been a fan of Lafayette. He was so intelligent and aware of how to understand people. And he was a boy. I don't want to say only a boy, because now our country sends young men of 19 to war. But, of course they are not normally changing the future. Or maybe they are.
I look forward to this book. And I thank you so much for this interview and being here with us.
Posted by: Annette N | Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 09:17 AM
Thank you so much! To me, I think history classes teach it all wrong. The kids don't need to memorize dates. They need to be told stories, and to realize that these are all human choices that led us to where we are today :)
Posted by: Stephanie Dray | Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 12:33 PM
Thank you! And I'm always glad to meet a fellow fan of Lafayette. He's a lovable fellow, and he did so much when he was so young. He made many mistakes, of course. But he's someone about whom you can always say, "His heart was in the right place." And his wife, even more so.
Posted by: Stephanie Dray | Tuesday, July 14, 2020 at 12:35 PM
Thanks for the fascinating history! I've always been a fan of Lafayette, but I knew nothing about his wife.
Posted by: Karin | Wednesday, July 15, 2020 at 05:27 AM
Thank you, Stephanie, for bringing Lafayette back into focus. He did some truly marvelous things during our American Revolution. Would that his "can-do" attitude was more appreciated, since is was so sorely needed!
Posted by: Carol Hice | Saturday, July 18, 2020 at 07:43 PM