Belatedly, here's a picture from my garden, of the old style rose. It's probably 20 plus feet long.
I'm off tomorrow for the Writers' Weekend in Seattle. If anyone's in the area, there's a public event at a library in Bellevue.
http://www.kcls.org/programs/programs.cfm
I don't know if it's possible to still get into the conference.
http://www.writersweekend.com/
I'll be back later Sunday to see what wenching has occurred.
Jo :)