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Patricia Rice

Makes the streets of Regency London come to life, thank you! Rather like rolling New Orleans Jackson Square and the subways of NYC and other such places into one small area without regulations. It must have been exciting and overwhelming for anyone just in from the country!

joanna bourne

I like the 'no regs' thought. Apparently you just picked out your 'patch', started beating a drum and set let slip the dancing dogs.

Anne Gracie

Lovely post, Joanna. Reminds me of one time when a man was out in a street I know, playing the violin perfectly dreadfully. There is nothing more dreadful, I think, than a badly played violin. The cafe owner where I was having a coffee told me they'd originally made the mistake of slipping him a few dollars to move away, and now he came back regularly and did the whole street in an hour — everyone paying him to move on.

Mary Jo Putney

Your vivid word picture of the streets of London reminds me why people who came from the country found the city so noisy! Some of the street food sounds pretty good, though. *G*

Angela

I can just picture the street scenes in my mind's eye. I wish I could visit for the day.

Thanks for the link to what a hurdy gurdy sounds like. Love. it.

Jane O

I'm feeling very old!

When I was a child in Queens in the 1940s, there would occasionally be someone we called "the monkey grinder" who played a barrel organ (which we called a hurdy gurdy) while the monkey danced about and held out his cup for contributions. His appearance was one of the signs of spring.

There were also the knife grinder (a very useful fellow) and the rag man. The streets were also always filled with children playing.

I hadn't thought about it before, but the streets in those days were an actual locale, not simply a way to get from one place to another.

joanna bourne

Hi Angela --

I went looking for how a hurdy gurdy sounds, since I was curious, and came across that lovely man doing the performance. I had to laugh at him.

You know how we have many words from historical times and some pictures -- but we don't so much have the sounds and the smells?

That's one of the sounds from the Regency Streets.

joanna bourne

Hi Jane O --

I think we're losing that sense of the streets as a meeting place and playground.

This is SO MUCH the historical reality. Those grim tenements in the East End of London were cold and dark and crowded. Folks spent their days outside whenever the weather wasn't absolutely horrible.

Even in the mid-Twentieth Century, big cities had neighborhoods. Kids played in the streets and ran errands to the nearest grocery, perfectly at home, safe among two hundred adults hanging out the windows or sitting on the stoop who knew them and knew who belonged on the street and who didn't.

I wonder if we've lost this forever. I fear the city spaces become anonymous and dangerous and the city neighborhoods disappear.

Maybe city planners are beginning to take this into account. I hope so.

joanna bourne

Hi Mary Jo --

When I lived in Tehran, there were carts that came around with a cooked beet on them. I mean .. these were GIANT beets. The fellow would slice off a bit and give it to you on a plate.

And there were carts selling melon juice. Lovely.

joanna bourne

Hi Anne --

Paying him to move along. Oh, that's funny. That's exactly what the contemporary accounts say about the hurdy gurdy men. Everybody would pay them to move on.

The same tune, over and over again, must have been maddening.

Valerie Bowman

Thank you for this vivid and lively description of the streets of the Regency. And now I know what a hot codlin is!

Regan Walker

Jo, thanks for this great look at London's streets!--and don't forget the smells! Weren't sewage and garbage a real issue?

Regan
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Ella Quinn

This reminds me very much of what one can still see today in Europe. I'm sad we've lost so much of it in the US.

joanna bourne

Hi Ella --

When they do urban re-development, lotsa times they try for that 'European Neighborhood' vibe. I like to see that. Maybe we're headed in the right direction.

joanna bourne

Hi Regan --

I've lived in towns that have no particular waste disposal system. Open sewers and so on.

You don't notice it so much, really.

joanna bourne

Hi Valerie --

Yes! Hot Codlins. I'd known the poem but had no idea what they were. (If someone had asked me, I would have said, fish.)

Isn't it wonderful the things you learn when you're looking for something else? I couldn't resist sharing that.

Louis

Fascinating.

Facinating time on the srteets.

joanna bourne

Hi Louis --

I think I would have enjoyed myself, wandering around in the Regency.

Jo Banks

How the heck does a codlin become a hot apple??Most odd there must be some old english connection somewhere I suppose .Though you do get coddled eggs so is to coddle to heat something?Mind you I find a stoop something I have never heard of I think you mean a porch?Talk about being divided by one language!

Polly McCrillis

In Boston, a couple blocks from Harvard I stopped to listen to a string quartet playing a Shubert piece many years ago. Dressed in concert black, music stands arranged in a U. Stepped off the train in Philadelphia and there was a blind man playing a Mozart symphony on a glass harp. Astonishing. Strings, horns, reeds, all the parts were there. As a music student in New Orleans I spent many out-of-class hours in the Quarter. There's a Regency feel to that city. Acrobats, musicians, painters, so much going on, weekends especially. We may have less street entertainment in the USA but what we have is amazing.

joanna bourne

Hi Jo Banks,

*g* I do love words, don't you.

Codlin is an old word for some varieties of cooking apples. Dates to the early Fifteenth Century. It's British usage, though I haven't heard it outside that poem.
Not clear where the word comes from.

The similar-sounding 'coddle' -- what we do to an egg -- seems to be of slightly more recent origin and comes from caudle, a warm drink for the sick.

Stoop, in this meaning, is a small porch. It's a generally Yankee sort of word. Northeast USA. I think of it as a Baltimore word because that's where I'd hear it.

This 'stoop' is from the Dutch stoep -- a small porch -- and comes to the US from the Dutch settlers in New York State.

I am now filled with a desire to track down just what kind of apples are codlins.

joanna bourne

Hi Polly --

I mentioned Baltimore above. I don't know whereas Baltimore is particularly known for its street performers, the way New Orleans is. But I remember Saturdays in the Mount Vernon Park. There'd usually be somebody playing.

deniz

Street singing! That's interesting. But I like the sound of bagpipes :-)

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