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Liz V.

The Meaning of Flowers by Claire Powell, quoted by Susan Wittig Albert in Lavender Lies, states "The god of silence is represented as a young man, half-naked, holding a finger to his lips and with a white rose in the other hand. A white rose used to be sculptured over a door of banqueting rooms to remind guests that they should never repeat outside the things they had heard in their festive moments. The same emblem was once carved on confessionals. Sometimes actual white roses were hung by a host over the tables where he entertained his guests–the origin of the phrase sub rosa, “under the rose.” The phrase goes back in English at least until the time of Henry VII."
Any anti-Tudor group works for me.

joanna bourne

I'm not particularly mad at the Tudors, meself. But I understand those who are fans of Richard III, who seems to have gotten a poor deal.

I put a rose shaped knocker on the door of my fictional 'No. 7, Meeks Street' as an indication of the secrecy inside. To say that much that went on there was sub rosa.

I think this is a pretty old symbology. Roses were often carved over the door of the confessional, for instance, to show that what went on inside was held secret.

I saw on claim that the Stuart rose symbol was six petaled instead of five. Don't know if this is true. *g*

Patricia Rice

Fantastic post, Jo. The things I learn from this group! Of course, with my poor memory and big mouth, no one would ever let me near a secret society. Steer me toward a nice gossipy gardening group, please. "G"

joanna bourne

They apparently had secret Jacobite societies at both Oxford and Cambridge. Cool, huh?

Karenmc

Great post. I learn so much from blogs like WW.

I'm a sucker for books about the Jacobites.

Peggyo

Laughing because of the reenactment groups I know. Some of them do stuff for the 'king across the water' and I was stumped until I remembered the Jacobite stuff. So they all wear kilts, find a blacksmith, buy hideously expensive boots (way cool) and have a grand old time.

Fascinating article, thanks. Won't have expensive glassware in my own house because I am such a klutz, but can admire it from afar.

joanna bourne

I love art glass. The combination of clarity and color and light shining through it just blows my mind.

It's interesting, too, that some of the best work in the US is done in the Great Northwest -- an area not noted for it's sunny skies.

A heroine who comes across one of these glasses, decked out with symbols, is just ging to know who the traitor is . . .

joanna bourne

Hi Karenmc --

I honestly don't know which side I'd be on in a struggle between them. I think I'd hold out another fifty years and go with the 'Let's overthrow the lot of them' crowd.

Susan/DC

Your posts always have such fascinating history. I'd read of flint arrows but had never heard of flint glass. To take such humble ingredients and make objects of such delicate beauty is artistry indeed.

I don't know that I'd have been a Jacobite -- James was not the most attractive of characters (and I don't mean the portrait in Joanna's blog). Perhaps I could have been a member of one of the groups that helped run the Underground Railroad just before the American Civil War.

joanna bourne

Hi Susan --

It has to be something of a symbol itself, that sand makes pure, clear glass. That stone makes the most fragile of materials.

Yes. James II was an unpleasant character, wasn't he? A more likeable man might have kept his throne.

Maureen

Hi Joanna,
Thanks for the interesting post and the next time I'm at the Philadelphia Art Museum I will be looking at any glassware more closely. I enjoy stories that have groups where women got together to talk and plan ways to get their rights.

Cathy Gilleylen Schultz

Don't we love secret societies! My girlfriend and I when we were 13 in 1963 had our own. We called it Scarab. Can you guess who our "society" was about?! I'm sure there were more secret societies in history than we are aware of. During the Regency period my secret society would be for aristocratic women who on the surface appeared frivolous in their pursuits, but behind the scenes were wreaking havoc with their men to change the social laws that exploited women and children.

Janga

Fascinating post! So often reading WW posts is like attending class and listening to a gifted lecturer. And since I loved such classes, I mean that in the best possible way.

I think it would be great fun to have a heroine belong to something like the Arcane Society of Jayne Ann Krentz/Amanda Quick/Jayne Castle with adventures in the past, present, and future.

Dee Feagin

Thank you for the interesting information about glassmaking, and about the symbolism used on them. My choice of secret/clandestine/undercover society would be one that worked to improve the conditions of women and children who had (and still do not have in some areas of this world), no power to control their lives.

Denise Metcalf

Thanks for the informative post. So interesting to learn the historical meanings of glasswork imagery and the history behind it.

Christina Courtenay

Fascinating post and I would love to own one of those glasses! I love all the stories about Jacobites and my next novel is set in the years after the '45 when the poor Highlanders were very badly treated. Whether their cause was just or not, they didn't deserve that I feel.

If I had to choose a secret society for a hero to belong to, however, I think it would have to be the Knights Templar. I know there are probably too many of those kind of stories around now, but there's still room for more speculation about them IMO :)

joanna bourne

Hi Christina --

Knight Templars would have been a combination of feroicious competence, idealism, duty and . . . secrets. I love it.

Any glass of the Georgian period would be wonderful to own. I'll admit, I would dare actually drink from it. My grandmother left me some cut glass from -- West Virginia. Seems there was a glassblowing factory there a century or so back. Anyhow, it has a little tear drop of air in the top of the stem. Very pretty. Don't know what the glass is made out of, though.

joanna bourne

Hi Denise --

So right. We can look at the art of the objects and enjoy the beauty. Knowing something of the age and symbolism makes it significant.

I guess that's why I like historical objects. They can hold a whole world of meaning and association.

joanna bourne

Hi Dee --

Maybe that's like the TV program 'Leverage'. Or one of those secret heroes who work under cover of the night.
There is an enormous appeal to this.

joanna bourne

Hi Janga --

Yes indeed. I just ache to have a secret society stretching across the ages. Maybe with secret signs and a handshake . . .

joanna bourne

Hi Cathy --

The Regency was boom time for secret societies. I'm surprised we don't have more books with our heroes and heroines meeting clandestinely to pursue a cause or do something useful.

It occurs to me that my spies from Meeks Street are very much a secret society. So, of course, is Maggie's band in Forbidden Rose. I hadn't realized I as so fond of this trope.

joanna bourne

Hi Maureen --

I don't know what the differences would have been between American glass production and British glass production. The folks in Williamsburg probably know. Your museum folks may have a handle on this. It's quite a complicated subject.

Christine

Perhaps it's just the whole romantic idea of it all but I always sympathize with the Jacobites. Maybe it's because one always feels for the underdog or because of how brutally the Scots were treated but if I am being completely honest it's really because the Stuarts are the last interesting and charismatic monarchs in English history. (At least for quite a while anyway.) Once they went digging around Germany looking for a another branch of the family to bring in and came up with Hanoverians I am afraid they lost me.

joanna bourne

I have a suspicion the British Parliament was deliberately looking for the dullest replacement monarch they could find.

plastic glasses

Such and antique wine glasses you have shared here Jo... with great glass work on them. Love Forbidden Rose.

joanna bourne

Hi PG --

Thank ye so kindly.

History is made up of all the little pieces, isn't it? And so often, when we 'look' at historical objects, we forget they had weight and texture as well. These engraved glasses would have had a feel to the surface and a heaviness, from being lead glass.

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