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Helen

Andrea

Loved all of that information how interesting. I know how much I love chocolate and here in Australia one of my favourites is cadburys milk chocolate and basically any of the Lindt chocolate I often visit the Lindt Cafe here in The City and I always walk away feeling great LOL.

I haven't come across any fact about chocolate in a regency that has surprised me I just realy wished that I had someone to make me a hot chocolate each morning LOL

Congrat on the release of the new book I will be adding this one to my must have list

Have Fun
Helen

Bibliophile

I have a special place in my heart for an Icelandic brand of dark chocolate called Síríus Konsúm. It is absolutely the best chocolate for making hot chocolate with, and it's good for eating too. A few years ago they started making Easter eggs out of it and since then I always buy a Konsúm Easter egg.
The Lindt Excellence brand is also good - I'm nibbling on a square of Intense Chocolate as I type this.

Many years ago I read the history of chocolate and found many surprises in it, but of course I can't remember any of them.

Cara Elliott/Andrea Penrose

Helen, you have a Lindt Cafe??? (Drooling with envy . . . we have lots of Lindt stores around me, but I haven't seen a cafe yet.) Cadbury's is an excellent choice! And it's one of the oldest makers of edible chocolate, though after the Regency, where my little history ended. Hope you enjoy Sweet Revenge

Cara Elliott/Andrea Penrose

Bibiliophile, thank so much for the heads-up on a new brand of chocolate! (Hey, it's research, right?) I've never heard of Icelandic chocolate, but it definitely sounds worth looking for!

Susanna Fraser

I was definitely surprised to hear of chocolate being eaten in the Regency, since I'd always been told otherwise, but I'm not at all surprised to find the French at the forefront. :-)

My favorite chocolate comes from Fran's Chocolates right here in Seattle (they ship within the US). Delicious truffles and salted caramels.

Cara Elliott/Andrea Penrose

Oh, Susanna, another treat to put on my To Be tasted List!

That's what I love about history—one is constantly learning new things that challenge conventional wisdom. It keeps reminding me that just like the present, the past has so many experimentations, and quirky minds at work, so it's hard to make generalizations.

Karen D

My favorite is called deBrand's--it's a small company located in Indiana. they are a little pricey, but definitely worth the special treat (and they have a website for anyone interested...). I prefer dark chocolate, but not so dark it's too bitter.

After seeing an aristocratic spy in every other romance novel I was surprised to learn that spying was considered "ungentlemanly" and looked down upon, partly because it involved lying and other dishonest (and therefore dishonorable) activities.

Cara Elliott/Andrea Penrose

Karen, that's a good point—we have the "Scarlet Pimpernel" image as a spy doing noble work, but you're right—such activities were considered not for gentlemen (actually so little "work" was. No wonder they drank so much—life must have been awfully boring to any of them.)

Will look for deBrand's!

Janice

I didn't know there was a question as to whether chocolate was eaten (as well as drunk) during the regency; of course it was. I looked it up once, however, and found that though chocolate candies, dipped fruits, cakes, etc. were available, people who didn't make their own went to a confectionery shop where they would choose from fresh items in the case. Chocolate in ready to eat form as a shelf item (boxes of chocolate, candy bars and such) didn't exist because the chocolate wasn't stable; it would melt. There were some articles on this point around the time Libby's London Merchant was published. IdeaFinder says the chocolate bar was invented in 1847 by Joseph Fry http://www.ideafinder.com/history/inventions/candybar.htm

I'm off the stuff myself for reasons both spiritual and health related, but I do remember See's dark chocolate with special fondness.

Hot chocolate in the regency: Didn't they just have chocolate and sugar in it, with no milk? Doesn't sound nearly as appealing as cocoa with mushfellows :)

Andrea, your book is on my 'buy new' list at amazon, just waiting for enough other stuff to get free shipping :) I do love Georgian/Regency/Victorian historical mysteries. So many good storytellers are going there.

LouisaCornell

Ah! A subject near and dear to my heart! I have eaten chocolate all over the world, but my favorite is Cadbury's Fruit and Nut Bar followed by a confection known as a Cadbury whip! Sublime !! RWA National Conference is usually a chocolate delight for me as my writer friends from England, Australia and Canada bring me chocolate in an effort to persuade me to tell them WHICH Cadbury's is best! I always demure and say I need more research. My Mother did NOT raise a fool! :)

However, another favorite is the Mozart kugel which is produced by many factories in and around Salzburg (Mirabel is the most well known.) The TRUE Mozart kugel can only be found in a couple of shops in Salzburg where they are still made by hand. Heaven! Absolute heaven!

Actually I have been surprised in my research about the heating of glass houses / conservatories in England that some actually had elaborate steam heating via the work of Jean Simon Bonnemain. I simply wanted to find out if it was possible based on the systems left to us by the Romans and stumbled upon Bonnemain's work. The man was a genius and I am looking forward to incorporating his work into my WIP !!

Cara Elliott/Andrea Penrose

Janice, you are right about the stability factor, and Fry is indeed credited with the first "eating chocolate" though my source says in 1830. (For what I gather, van Houten's invention of a certain type of chocolate press in 1828 made it possible to extract the cocoa butter from the beans, and thus paved the way for developing more stable forms of solid chocolate.

See's a favorite of mine too! Sigh—excellent! 9Hey, chocolate is good for both body and soul, so maybe you should reconsider! :)

I hope you enjoy Sweet Revenge. I've really been enjoying historical mysteries as a reader too. There are really some wonderful voices and stories out there.

Cara Elliott/Andrea Penrose

Louisa, you are definitely a VERY smart cookie (or chocolate chip) Cadbury is very good, but i'll put my Lindt Nut & Raisin bar against it in a head-to-head, LOL And yes, Mozart kugels are to die for! (I don't remember which, but you can order one variety through the Vermont Country Store catalogue.)

Your discovery about the heating in greenhouses sounds fascinating! Can't wait to read about it!

librarypat

No real favorite form of chocolate. I'll eat it any way I can get it. We discovered SEE'S chocolates while living in Sacramento and they are delicious.

As far as historical tidbits, I was shocked to find out that England had shipped out hundreds of thousands of Irish and sold them as slaves. It was part of their move to "clear the land for English ownership and occupation. There were also warehouses of food for english residents and food was being exported from Ireland during the Potato Famine. Another maneuver to eliminate the irish so they could take over. So many unnecessary deaths.

Maggie Robinson/Margaret Rowe

Am going to order the book as soon as I leave Word Wenches.

I am more a vanilla than chocolate girl myself.But we just got back from a cruise where we bought some liqueur-filled Belgian chocolates. Yum!

Cara Elliott/Andrea Penrose

Librarypat, England's treatment of the Irish and Ireland has so many horrific stories. I knew about the food , but the slave reference is new to me. Do you mean actual slaves, or indentured servants?

On a lighter note, I know See's chocolates too, and they are right up there! (Actually, it's hard to find a chocolate I DON"T like . . . though I did once have a Russian bar that was not a delicious experience.)

Cara Elliott/Andrea Penrose

Thank you, Maggie! The filled chocolates sound wonderful, but then, the Belgians do know their chocolate.

Minna

I like chocolate in any form and almost any brand and it's really easier to say which brand of choclate I don't like -yes indeed, there is such a thing.

Cara Elliott/Andrea Penrose

But not many! right, Minna?

Anne Gracie

Wonderful post Cara/Andrea. I love chocolate, though I don't like it too sweet, and dark chocolate is my favorite. For my most recent book, in which there is some traveling in Spain, my research suggests many English travelers disliked the Spanish habit of drinking hot, very thick chocolate for breakfast --thick enough to stand a spoon up in it, so that some travelers complained you had to eat it with the spoon, instead of drinking it. Sounds fine to me, though possibly a bit rich for breakfast.

I'm quite fond of a small bar called Cherry-Ripe - cherry and coconut, covered with dark chocolate, though of the standard supermarket chocolate I mostly prefer almond chocolate or Old Jamaica. The specialist chocolate shops (Haigh's in Melbourne) have delicious concoctions, and we have a Lindt cafe here, too, though so far I've resisted going there.

Cara Elliott/Andrea Penrose

Anne, that's interesting about the Spanish style chocolate. It does sound a bit rich for breakfast. I'm a dark chocolate fan too, though I do like the Lindt milk chocolate with raisin and nuts. Very delicious! Must do some research (yes, research!) and see if there are Lindt cafes in the US. I haven't seen any—just the specialty shops.

Jeanne Miro

All I can say is chocolate butter creams freshly made on site by Sweenor's Chocolates. Talk about luck - the main location is right in my little town. The only problem is I'm a Type I diabetic (it runs in my family) - the good thing is because of that I can only indulge once or twice a year!

I always love when there is a scene in one of the historical romance books I read that mention chocolate. When then mention having chocolage (without sugar) I wonder how good it could have tasted! Guess it would have been a lot easier to pass up than it is now.

Cara Elliott/Andrea Penrose

Oh, swoon on the chocolate butter creams! Most of the time I prefer solid chocolate, but freshly made creams are amazing So sorry you can't indulge more (but that may be a blessing in disguise. I fear I would become fat as Prinny if I lived next to a gourmet chocolate factory!)

Mexican cooking uses chocolate without sugar for mole sauces. it's more of a savory . . . but I confess, I prefer the sweet version.

JPoorman

I lived (briefly) in Papua New Guinea in 1984 and Cocoa is one of their crops. My biggest surprise was how badly the stuff stinks after picking. And, after months without chocolate (being an M & M kinda gal) the first meal I had after landing back in Australia involved a stop at an bakery where I had the MOST decadent slice of chocolate cake, fudge icing and curls of chocolate shavings. After months of no eating (just smelling, yikes) chocolate - it was fabulous! Perhaps we don't think much about it when it is readily available?

librarypat

If you Google irish slaves you will come up with many articles on the trade. It started with James II about 1625 and from 1641 to 1652 300,000 were sold as slaves. In the 1650's 100,000 Irish children ages 10 to 14 were sold as slaves in the West Indies, and the colonies. These were not indentured servants, who were close to slaves. I read that if an indentured servant had a child, it belonged to the owner of her indenture. When the indenture was up, she could leave, but the child could not.

Cara Elliott/Andrea Penrose

Thank you, Pat. That's an even grimmer picture of Irish history than I imagined.

Cara Elliott/Andrea Penrose

That's very interesting, JPoorman. Seeing as the cocoa pods are a fleshy fruit, I can imagine that as they lie around in a tropical climate, waiting for the beans to be extracted, that the smell could be . . . pungent. That chocolate cake sounds wonderful—it seems from some of our other comments that the Aussies know how to do good things with our favorite foodstuff

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