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Anne Gracie

Wonderful post, Joanna. I can't wait for breakfast. You've made me think of the breakfasts I had in Paris many years ago. I'm not all that fond of croissants, so my choice was usually a fresh-baked chunk of baguette, sliced in half and spread with butter and/or apricot jam. It was washed down with coffee, which was served in two pots, one of black strong coffee and the other containing hot milk. Heaven. Every now and then I still treat myself to a "Parisian breakfast."

As for the "breakfast of heroes" my guys usually go for protein — bacon, eggs, ham, even roast beef or steak— and even though it was common for men to to wash their breakfast down with ale in those days, I usually serve my heroes coffee, because I don't want my headers to think they were alcoholics, drinking ale at breakfast.

Cynthia Owens

Joanna, great post. Brought back some great memories for me of my grandmother baking bread - she was blind, but she unerringly made the best bread I'd ever tasted. To this day, I still remember her at the old wooden table in her house, kneading the bread. And after she died, I was given an old wooden butter mold that had belonged to my great-grandmother.

As for the breakfast of heroes, mine are usually Irish, so they'd be eating soda bread or Colcannon (potatoes mixed with cream and wild leeks) with tea. I actually had the opportunity to taste Colcannon when I was in Ireland last year, and it's delicious!

Kim Colby

How very interesting! It's details like these that make our understanding of the times greater and therefore the reading even more pleasurable.

Than you so much for sharing Joanna!

Linda Banche

Oh, all this food sounds wonderful! I want some of each--and a cook to make them, because I would starve if I had to cook for myself. Good thing hubby is a good cook. (I love you, dear).

Joanna Bourne

Hi Annie --

I have to say, the thought of ale for breakfast sets my teeth on edge. Couldn't face it, myself.

(I have always thought much of European history can be explained by the theory that everyone went around mildly buzzed all the time.)

Protein. Yes. Definitely.

Joanna Bourne

Hi Cynthia Owens,

Butter molds seem to come in a couple three sorts.

Some English examples were used by the dairy owners to mark their product. This could be a mold the butter went into or a stamp to tap down on top.

Some molds were finely made, meant to decorate butter that would be served 'upstairs'. There's one in the inventory of a cabinetmaker, for instance.

Then there's a whole folk art tradition in America, influenced by German immigrants. I just love these. Charming and vibrant art.

You're fortunate to have one that's been in your family so long.

Fascinating about the Irish Breakfasts. And Irish soda bread. Yum yum. I never make this as well as they do in Ireland.

Joanna Bourne

Hi Kim Colby --

I love understanding the details of everyday life.
This stuff is surprisingly hard to find out about, though. Nobody puts this in their period journal or mentions it in a letter.

I guess it makes sense. I mean, how many times do we sit down and write the details of how to change a lightbulb?

Joanna Bourne

Hi Linda Banche --

It's getting to be where the husband is the 'house cook' very often, I think. I love this flexibility.

Elisa

Fabulous post! Thanks for all the great info!

And, dang, why do I have nothing but pre-fab wheat bread in the house??

Joanna Bourne

Hi Elisa --

Same with me. I feel stirred to virtuous bread-making by this post.

But it may be only muffins. I make a very empowering cranberry-walnut muffin.

Susan/DC

Lovely post, but now I'm hungry. Breakfast -- whether brioche, French toast (and why French, I wonder), or Cheerios plus banana -- is my favorite meal of the day. I think the reason Cook added raisins is because the hero (the youngest son in the household) loves raisins and Cook has always had a soft spot for him (as does our heroine, perfect for him in every way except for her dislike of raisins).

I noticed that the measurements of the dry ingredients in the recipes were often in weights. This is still the way it's done in Europe, but in the US we tend to measure by volume, which, as I understand it, is more variable and therefore less accurate. I wouldn't necessarily know from personal experience, as my husband, like Linda's, does all the cooking (in return, I clean).

Joanna Bourne

Hi Susan/DC --

The French, being intransigent, don't call it French Toast. THEY call it 'lost bread',
which is evocative, but also one of those things that make you wonder, 'why'?
Who lost the bread? Who found it? How did it get into an eggs/milk/skillet situation?

The dynamic of a hero who likes raisins and a heroine who loathes them is, I believe, what writerly types would call an external conflict. The resolution of this turmoil eludes me, I'm afraid.

Perhaps they will construct a long happy future where breakfast tables hold both brioche and wheaten toast.

Louis

That made me* hungary. Wouldn't mind a brioche right now.

Remember way, way back going to my great Aunt's and operating a churn to get butter...up, down, up, down forever. She used a large "butter crock" to hold the result from churning. I'd get a glass of buttermilk.

Good.

Joanna Bourne

Hi Louis --

You have actually seen and operated a butter churn!
Just wow. Wow.

There must have been 1800-ish butter crocks, but I have not yet located a picture of one. Always something that eludes us.

They make nifty two-piece ceramic 'French butter keepers' or 'French butter bells', but the design seems to date only to the late Nineteenth Century. Too bad, really.

LILinda

Don't know what kind of chickens were around during the Regency, but can tell you the vast majority of chicken breeds lay brown eggs. We've raised many different breeds, and only the white Leghorns lay white eggs. We get brown, blue and green eggs currently. It is also false that these colors taste any different. The taste and texture are better because of freshness, not shell color.

Anne Gracie

Re egg color, I believe the color related directly to the color of the hen -- white hens pretty much ay white eggs and colored hens lay brown eggs. I believe the "brown eggs is better" notion came when an occasional brown eggs came from white hens, which made it unusual. We kept chickens when I was a kid and whenever we found a brown egg it was treated as a reward. Similarly a double yolker was a surprise treat.

I think Enid Blyton used to wax lyrical about brown eggs, too, which added to the impression in my child's brain.

There was a bit of an outcry here last Orthodox Easter as the folk who traditionally dye eggs for Easter are finding it harder and harder to find white eggs, and the brown color dulls the bright dyes they use.

Re the butter crocks, I'm guessing, but it might be that in the UK the weather wasn't warm enough for melting to be a problem, so the butter kept in slabs quite well, and the butter was salted to preserve it. They might have needed a different system in warmer climes. Unsalted butter was and is, I think, much more prevalent in European countries.

And one last piece of trivia — when I was staying in North Wales (Caernarfon) many years ago, where central heating was not standard, I was intrigued that my hostess placed the butter crock next to the hearth every night, so that it would be soft enough in the morning to spread on toast. They never put butter in the fridge, whereas we in hotter climes have to.

laura

Flour sifting - random annoyance or kitchen menace.

http://kitchensavvy.typepad.com/journal/2005/07/sifting_flour.html

Lots of reasons to sift flour.

Your cook might indeed sift her flour to remove any critters, but most likely she is in fact going to some lengths to prevent her supplies from becoming weavil (or mouse) infested in the first place.
Like tainted meat, it would happen, but is not the normal or expected state of affairs.
A barrel of flour sounds like a lot, but a good-sized household would tear through it pretty quickly.

What the cook is sifting her flour for is to aerate it in order to produce a lighter final product.
Sift the stuff about twice and you've got separated all the tiny grains of flour and incorporated a lot of air.
It just handles differently than compacted flour, even if you are going to be kneading it for a while.

Joanna Bourne

Hi LI Linda --

I admit myself puzzled that only white eggs show up in all these European paintings. I see chickens sometimes in the paintings, but I don't know what breed they are.

There seem to have been lots of old local breeds we don't see any more. They had names like Appenzeller, Sabelpoot, Campine, Crevecoeur, Dorking, (If you raised these you could speak familiarly of all the dorks out in the yard,)Hamburgh, Houdan, Polish, Spanish White-face, and -- my favorite -- a French breed dating to before 1660. La Fleche

Joanna Bourne

Hi Anne --

I shared household with a young Swedish woman when I first lived in London. The fridge was tiny and she used to drive me mad, leaving the milk and butter outside on the windowsill to keep.

So weird.

On the other hand, London was not precisely sultry. I used to grow moss on the shady side of the car.

Joanna Bourne

Hi Laura --

>>>Flour sifting - random annoyance or kitchen menace.<<<

A question for the ages. Yes indeed.

The cook's sifter would have been a hoop of wood with a mesh of cloth or horsehair or fine wire. I couldn't find a public domaine picture of one, though.

See a modern reproduction at
http://www.beaverbuckets.com/Flour%20Sifter.htm

Lori Benton

Hi Jo. That was a most excellent post, and I learned a thing or two (okay, a lot more than that). Thanks for alerting us over at the forum. Miss you!

Jane O

Fascinating post. I love information about food almost as much as I love food.

Louis

I remember that my great Aunt also used a "butter press"...to squeeze out the last drop of milk. The result was a "brick" of butter.

Joanna Bourne

Hi Lori --
(waves madly)

I'm always fascinated by the ways technology shapes society.
Look at water delivery. London has good public pipes. Paris, not so much.

Paris had public baths in this period. Baths that were stuffily respectable. Inexpensive ones and fancy ones. Some that were the equivalent of a modern 'Day Spa'.

London didn't, really.

Joanna Bourne

Hi Jane --

What impresses me is how very many parameters there are for something as simple as 'flour'.

Joanna Bourne

Hi Louis --

And, thus, buttermilk.

I think ordinary country people in our period would have drunk buttermilk and well-skimmed milk.

The high-value and relatively transportable products, the cream, butter, cheese and clotted cream would be sent to market.

One recorder of the time says Londoners used only a drop or two of cream in their tea. Barely enough to change the color. In the morning, when the milkmaid came by, a household would buy an amount of cream 'equal to a hen's egg in size'

Joanna Bourne

Hi Anne --

In re keeping butter cool.

I'm reminded of Elizabeth Goudge, The Little White Horse. In that book, butter was kept cool in a niche in the brick wall of the well, just within reach.

Sherrie Holmes

Sherrie, here. I'm such a foodie, so of course, I loved this post, Joanna! And breads are right up there at the top of my list of favorite foods. I do love brioches, but unless I go to a bakery, I don't see much of them available in my neck of the woods.

After reading your post, I was all fired up to go make bread, but it's far too hot to bake in a traditional oven, so I'll be heading to the kitchen shortly to make bread with the bread machine--a modern marvel that I kiss frequently and use just as frequently. I would dearly love to take a Regency cook and plop her into a modern American kitchen, then fix a meal for her using all the modern gadgets which would have made her life so much easier. I'll bet she'd be speechless.

OTOH, sometimes all the modern conveniences in the world can't compete with a cook who has "the touch." My Mom had it, and she passed it on to me and my brother and sister. Oddly, each has our own specialty--my brother is a whiz with pastas, my sister is the pastry queen, and I rule over the kingdom of casseroles and desserts. I can see why wealthy households in the Regency may have had specialty cooks--one who did meats and such, and a pastry chef who concocted towering confections.

Now I'm beastly hungry! I may have to brave the heat and whip up a casserole. Or wait! I'll use another modern convenience: my crock pot.

deniz

Wonderful post Jo! I love learning about history this way. Someday I'll be brave enough to keep a yeast starter in my kitchen. I've made bread from a starter mix a friend gave me, but not yet completely from scratch. And now I'm sooo hungry...
:-)
Deniz
-- win a copy of The Forbidden Rose at http://www.thegirdleofmelian.blogspot.com

Joanna Bourne

Hi Sherrie --

I wonder if the Regency cook would approve of our ingredients. Would she find the eggs undistinguished, the butter oddly full of water, the flour lacking that 'nutty flavor' Parisian bakers of the time demanded?

I'll bet she'd love the oven though. The great quest of the Regency cook was a reliable oven temperature. That's why you start seeing soufflés in cookbooks after 1800, when stove technology was improving.

And what a Regency cook would make of a microwave oven . . .

I've never owned a bread machine. I keep thinking I should try one out.

Joanna Bourne

Hi Deniz --

Every once in a while I get het up with a desire to take up the business of sourdough starter.

I sit down for a while and it goes away.

Christine

What a wonderful post. I am now craving brioche and a French Breakfast. I am imagining myself at Angelina's or Laduree right now!

The sourdough starter made me think of the Little House books by Laura Ingalls Wilder. In one of the later ones, maybe "Little Town on The Prarie" Laura or maybe Ma explains to company (and the reader) how they make a sourdough starter from scratch so they always have some in the cupboard to work from. I was facinated by this as a child.

Your article kept me similarly spellbound. Anyone can make a fight scene interesting, but to facinate with flour and raisins is quite a talent!

Thanks for the lovely read,
Christine

NinaP

Great post, Joanna!

Re: "When you picture a heroic character just rolling out of bed, what does he have for breakfast?" I'm gonna guess he's already had breakfast -- a.k.a. the heroine. ;-)

But you've got me hungry for fresh homemade bread, which I soon plan to remedy, sans bread-machine. There's nothing like plunging kneading hands in into a warm four/water mixture and watching it come up dough.

Joanna Bourne

Hi Christine --

That's because baking is exciting business. And, unlike a good Romance book, you never know how it's going to turn out in the end. *g*

Joanna Bourne

Hi NinaP --

I too ended up making bread last night. Cheese muffins.

This is part of a long-term determination to make cheese muffins that mimic those served by one of the big chain restaurants.

Not so much luck yet. I persevere.

Debbie

Hm. I always thought Pain Perdue meant the bread was lost because it was stale, and this is how you recover it.
The entire process of feeding a household seems so much more timeconsuming and complex back then. I think poor households, with no maids, tended to do one pot cooking. And you can see why porridge was the common breakfast food rather than bread, and bread was for richer households.

Great post!

Joanna Bourne

Hi Debbie --

Yes, indeed. You're quite right. The bread is 'lost' as in being dry, stale bread that would otherwise be wasted but can instead become incredibly yummy breakfast if you just dunk it in eggs and milk.

Would that other problems were so simply solved.

How stale? Probably not so much. Many places, even now, you buy your bread fresh every day. Yesterday's bread goes to the chickens.

Or becomes French Toast or crutons or sop for the soup.

Now, in the Regency time frame, in England proper and in France, bread was pretty much the basic food of the people.

It wasn't baked at home, though, and thus didn't compete with meals that were. About everywhere possible, bread came from the baker.

The baker's advantage was not just in buying bulk supplies. It was in the economics of maintaining and fueling a single huge oven versus many small ones. In fact, the 'oven advantage' was such that folks brought their roasts and casseroles to the baker. They pay a small fee to cook dinner communally in his oven.

Keira Soleore

Joanna, what a fun post! Tracing the origins of the ingredients makes the final product that much more of an achievement, than simply running off to the store.

When I read GIRL WITH THE PEARL EARRING, I realized that the ale that most people drank (especially women and older children) at breakfast was much watered down than normal strength.

Anne, yes, heh. Enid Blyton waxed lyrical about brown eggs and in her farm books about thick-sliced brown bread.

Joanna Bourne

Hi Keira --

I didn't know that about the watered ale.
So cool.

I know folks drank watered wine. It's what my sisters and I drank when we were in Europe. I think I have Annique in SPYMASTER'S LADY mention it as well.
This bit about the ale kinda puts the, 'Folks drank beer and wine because the water supply was unreliable,' idea in its place.

Seems to me folks drank ale, beer and wine 'cause they hadn't invented Mountain Dew and Coke.
Srlsy.

Gemma McLuckie

I have vivid memories of Granny Brown on the porch, churning butter. This would have been in the 1950s in Kentucky. I believe the churn was homemade. It was about 18 inches high, wider at the base. The top was an uneven round of wood with a hole in the center for the paddle. She kept a cow, so the milk and cream would have been very fresh. I think she formed the butter into a mound, but I don't know if she salted it. Also can't remember how it was stored.

Joanna Bourne

We're the last generation, I guess, who will even have SEEN much of this stuff.

On the one hand, I'm sorry to see a whole way of life disappear.

On the other, I'm very glad I don't have to churn my own butter or put clothes through a mangle or tiptoe out in the cool morning air to slop the hogs, who must be very insulted by the notion of eating 'slops' anyway.

Oh. And milking cows. I'm glad I don't have to milk Bossy. (It is amazing how generations of milkmaids have named their cows Bossy and then wondered why they kicked over the pail.)

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Poor edward has to do his work after dinner and he couldn’t go with us to play football. Because he dare not go against his mother’s orders. What a pity!

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