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Jill Q.

I do share some of the process with my husband. He likes to write (although he is not as interested in getting published as I am) and he does enjoy picking stories apart so he's very good at that. He doesn't read romance, but he's very open minded about it and understands most of the basic "rules" of the genre.
However, we tried to write something together once and I think we were almost too nice. Our writing styles didn't mesh well and neither of us could force the one style on the other.
Ah well, live and learn.

ValerieL.

If there's one plotline I love it's a marriage that needs saving. I will definitely get this book. As to the other question, I'm a better editor than a writer, but I can take criticism when given. I don't share anything I've written until it's finished. Until then, it's mine alone. It's a very private pleasure for just a while until I let it loose on the tender mercies of those I trust.

Caroline

I would love to share the process, but my husband refuses to take part, unfortunately. I've posted writing up on blogs, shared it with him, and he refuses to read it. he says "that's your world, I don't like romance".

So my process is mine alone, and perhaps when I am (finally) published someday, he will pick up the book and decide he does want to look into my world.

Cara Elliott/Andrea Penrose

Thanks for sharing your thoughts with us today, Pam!

I do not share my writing process. For me, it's a very private thing. How the characters develop just seems to work better in my own head—or maybe I'm just stubborn and want to make my own mistakes. Part of the problem is I find it hard talking out their feelings/intentions because those things happen as I write. Most of the time, I'm not quite sure what they will do until the scene unfolds.

Sometimes I do show a few trusted friends certain sections, to get general feedback, but that's it.

That said, I do find it fascinating to read how others experience the creative process.

Pam Rosenthal

Fascinating to hear other people's processes.

And those of you who wrote about the ability to take criticism are spot on. That's a crucial element of it, and one I learned during my longtime day job as a computer programmer.

Because when another programmer walks through your work and finds buggy code, you don't say, well that's my voice. You say thank you for finding that before it goes live.

But on the other hand, as Jill wrote, I can certainly understand the temptation to be "too nice." It's definitely a fine line to tread.

Pam Rosenthal

Caroline, it's a tough business getting the guys in your life to understand the rules of romance fiction, especially when you're still working them out in specific in the pages of a work in progress. Sometimes there's nothing like a bright, shiny cover and an ISBN to tempt a near and dear one to become a reader. Here's hoping in your case!

And Valerie and Cara, I know what you mean about wanting to keep the characters to yourself for a while too.

Oh, and I forgot to mention that once, long before I was writing romance (during my second Molly Weatherfield erotic novel), there was a little incident of a particularly blunt critical postit Michael put on my draft. He was right, but I still wouldn't speak to him for 3 days. It takes a lot of learning to take criticism from your near and dear.

peggy

I like to share the the books I'm reading with friends.

Pam Rosenthal

inviting friends into shared fictional worlds is definitely one of life's pleasures, peggy.

maryjoputney

Welcome to Wenchdom, Pam! Such fun to read how you developed your insights for this book--including the "guys won't ask directions" aspect. *g*

I'm lucky that me SO likes to read my works in progress, but he's a reader, not a critic. As long as he doesn't fall asleep while reading, I'm okay. *g*

Pam Rosenthal

Thanks for the welcome, Mary Jo. This is an honor for me. And it can be such fun to share something in manuscript form.

When I was writing my first romance novel, The Bookseller's Daughter, I sent a draft to my son, who at the time was working for a UN-affiliated web site, writing about AIDS in Africa.

And how lovely when he wrote back to say he was using it as an after-work escapist pleasure.

Mary Blayney

Hi Pam, always fun to read what you have to say about the writing process and I love the AHA moment: They're married!

I share my writing with my critiques group and that's about it. As for what I read, I'll share that with complete strangers in a bookstore or the library...and sometimes in line at Costco. Introvert without the shy gene, that's me.

Janet Mullany

Lovely post, Pam. I don't share books with my husband because he only likes books about dead Russians (eg Shostakovich) and/or books with pictures in them. He tried to read one of mine to save face with his mother, who has read them all, but gave up.

My daughter will read my books so long as they're not too explicit (not that she's a prude, far from it, but I am her sainted mother). I gave her an ARC of my next one, JANE AND THE DAMNED, and she emailed me and told me she wanted to go out to dinner to talk about it. Boy, was I scared. She handed the ARC back, with sticky notes in it and a sheet of paper listing things she liked about it and another one with things she didn't like about it. List #1 was longer than list #2.

It was awesome. I wish I'd let her take a look at it before I sent it to my editor. She has a fantastic eye for style and narrative and I'm encouraging her to become a reviewer ... or something.

Miranda Neville

I loved this post, Pam. But you always write so beautifully so not a surprise. My first reader (or rather listener) is a girlfriend. I read aloud over wine and she's wonderfully appreciative and uncritical so if she gets bored I know I've hit a rough spot.

I particularly like your account of how discussing and researching a book can drive the narrative.

Pam Rosenthal

Mary, how great to hear from you. I love "introvert without the shy gene." How enviable, and I can see it in you. I imagine my shy gene like a nasty rash all over my DNA (terrible biology -- can you believe I'm thinking about a sci fi book?)

But the wonderful thing about being a bookseller (as I was, for 9 years) is that you get to talk about books to strangers all the time and it's just called doing your job.

Pam Rosenthal

Such a cool story, Janet, about you and your daughter -- lists and postits and Jane and the Damned (which I have read, folks, in ARC, and really really liked).

Miranda, thanks for the kind words. And you're right -- nothing is a better signal of a rough spot than a glazed look in someone's eye.

Rachael Herron

And THIS is why I don't believe in synopses (for myself, anyway) -- that a-ha moment can happen anywhere, anytime, and leave you dashing sideways away from where you thought you'd be. Lovely post. Just Kindled the book, and can't wait to read it.

Barbara Elness

I enjoyed your post Pam, and learning more about you, your writing process, and The Slightest Provocation. I'm definitely going to be picking up this book, because I just love those "remarriage comedies."

Pam Rosenthal

Very apt point about synopses, Rachael. From a writer's pov, I think they're best for reminding you where you want to end up and shoring up confidence in your overriding logic and ability to finish the thing. And a kind of thematic unity, which is actually better expressed by Michael, in an essay called "From Pillow Talk to an Editor's Desk" (because, just as I fessed up to at the RITA ceremony, he's had more than a little to do with writing my synopses).

Pam Rosenthal

Glad you enjoyed the comments, Barbara -- I think we're privileged in romance, to be able to see marriage as a process that shed light on other important processes. And I hope you enjoy the book (thanks again to the Wenches for the opportunity to "meet" you).

Cara Elliott/Andrea Penrose

Oh, LOL on the dreaded synopsis. Pam says it well when she states it's a guide to where you want to end up . . . vaguely, that is.

For me they are painful to produce, and the bare bones usually end up looking very different as I flesh them out. Thank goodness, my editor understands my process, and doesn't press for too many details up front.

Chelsea B.

Hmmmm hardly anyone I know really *likes* to read. Or read romance, anyway. My friends and family will sometimes ask me what my secret smile is all about, and its usually because I'm thinking about the book I just put down :-)
I do have one person who will let me ramble on about books until my hearts content, so when I feel the need I know there is at least always one person I can go to :-)

Pam Rosenthal

Since so much of romance depends upon revealing someone's true nature, I think a synopsis might be helpful as a sort of timetable of revelations, or what cat gets let out of what bag when.

Pam Rosenthal

Oh gosh, Chelsea. What a precious hoard of secret smiles you must have. I'm glad you can post them online where we love to see them and where we know something of what you're feeling.

Tracy Grant

Wonderful post, Pam! I love sharing the books I read with friends and talking about them. I started out writing with my mom, so obviously we shared the plotting and revision process. My dad loved the fact that we laughed a lot, but we also used to go to cafés to go over our revision notes to cut down on the stress :-). Now I have some good writer friends I brainstorm with on occasion. My best friend from college (he's also the voice interviewing me on the video clips on my website) is also great at brainstorming. He helped me choreograph the finale of one of my books while we were walking around Ashland one afternoon.

Pam Rosenthal

I love hearing about you and your mom at work, Tracy, and hope that someday you'll write about what that was like.

And of course in my family, we've been sharing our love of books and stories for decades. I sometimes say of my son that the poor kid never had a chance, except to become a college English professor (who now dazzles me with his knowledge and insight).

donna ann

I occasionally share books I'm reading, though most family/freinds have slightly (or very) different reading tastes than I do. That's one of the nice things about the internet and blogs like this one -- get to share/discuss with others with simular great ;-D taste.

Louis

I share books frequently. Mostly with our daughter and occasionly with daughter in law who lives much further away.
We all have similar tastes in reading.

Ah, nothing like new author, new book.

Thanks for writing.

Pam Rosenthal

I agree. The internet is great for finding reading soulmates, donna. Have you tried Goodreads?

And Louis, thanks for reading.

Leanne Shawler

Hey Miss Pam, congrats on the mass market release!

My hubby's contributions seem to be primarily to come up with titles for my books that have terrible puns in them. But he listens to my ponderings and while I don't think I ever use his suggestions, good stuff has bounced out of them....

Pam Rosenthal

Miss Leanne, it's been a while and thanks for the congrats. Great to hear from you and are you sure you wouldn't like to share a pun or two?

And of course good stuff has bounced out of it -- puns freeing up the imagination and the language-making machine.

Maggi Andersen

My husband's a lawyer and was most helpful and encouraging when I wrote murder mysteries and suspense novels. Now I'm writing romance, I'm on my own, lol.

robyn

Wonderful post, Pam! I love the research you were able to do with you hubby - what a thrill to actually access primary documents like that.
I share my process with my husband - he doesn't get it, lol.

Pam Rosenthal

Great to have a lawyer in the family, Maggi, for a mystery and suspense writer. It reminds me of an RWA chapter member of mine, Karin Tabke, who's husband is a cop -- and who generously shares his experience and insights with Karin and other mystery and suspense writers in our chapter.

But robyn's right, lol -- it does help if the guy gets some of what you're doing.

Dee Feagin

If I did have someone to share my love of romance novels with, I wouldn't have as much time to read them, because as my poor husband occasionally discovers to his dismay, I can be quite eloquent--as in going on and on--about my passion for this genre. Instead, I find that I enjoy "reliving" scenes I particularly liked in my head in that quiet time before I drift off to sleep at night, and if I have taken the place of the heroine in my mind, well, all the better.

Pam Rosenthal

@Dee: But your husband only profits from that, no?

(At least that's what I've been told by some of my women readers)

;-)

JoAnn Smith Ainsworth

Hurray for you, Pam. You always write so beautifully.

When you wrote about a nation at war with itself, it seemed to me we have quite a few nations in the same state today. Do humans never learn?

Pam Rosenthal

Amen to your question about when will we ever learn, JoAnn. I was having similar thoughts (about the contemporary scene) as I wrote this book -- which is why I'm happy it's gotten a new life in mass market paperback.

Oh, and thanks for the kind words too.

Kim in Hawaii

Aloha, Cara and Pam! Thanks for the fun blog! I read historical romances and frequently ask my AF hubby about the history that may be happening in the book (he's well read on military history).

He occassionally reads my books - he recently became a fan of Word Wench Jo Beverley after reading The Secret Wedding (he enjoyed the cat's escapades).

Hubby encourages me to attend romance events (RT, RomCon, RWA, et al) knowing how much I enjoy being around romance authors. And he keeps his eye on romance happenings in Hawaii - I am spending the summer in Florida, so he sent me a link from the Honolulu paper about summer reading, including Regency romances!

Once he retires from the AF, he may become a professional gopher (and avid golfer) as he accompanies me to the romance events!

Pamela Fryer

After reading your post I'm feeling guilty for my lack of research in comparison. Pam, I love you, but I feel really dumb when I stand next to you :)

I have to read this book.

Pam Rosenthal

Aloha, Kim. I love the idea of attending National with my own gofer in tow.

And Pam, don't feel guilty. And DO enjoy The Slightest Provocation.

Cara Elliott/Andrea Penrose

Wonderful comments, everyone!

And a special hi to Kim—thanks for stopping by . . . I still say you have you take up golf so you and your DH can share your passions as you gallivant around the world. He'll come meet romance authors and you'll walk the links in Scotland and Ireland . . .sounds like a plan to me!

Joanna Bourne

Hi Pam --

Late signing in here. Loved hearing about your process. And I am so envious of a research vacation in England.

One of the sad truths about early Nineteenth Century spies is that most of the real ones were working at home, spying on their own countrymen.
So unheroic of them.

No need to put me in for the drawing. I have Slightest Provocation on my keeper shelf. (Right next to Carrie's Story, of course. *g*)

Pam Rosenthal

So un-intrepid of those slimy domestic spies...

While as for your other comment, Joanna -- a thilled squeal of thanks (as Pam Rosenthal and Molly Weatherfield hug self and other in co-authorly glee)

misskallie2000

I share my books with my daughter and her mother-in-law regularly. When you enjoy reading you enjoy sharing your books.

I have not read any of your books but adding you as new author and your books to my wish list. So glad you came by to chat so I could be introduced.

librarypat

I am envious of you for your trip through England with your husband. How wonderful that it helped you with your book.
I try to share books with my husband. He doesn't have much time to read, so I have started getting audio books. We may not listen to them together, but we can discuss them. There have been times when I have particularly enjoyed a book that I could not get in audio form that I wanted to share. I have read several books to my husband on long trips. I finished a 4 book series on one particular trip in 2001.
I recommend books to our children and loan them to them. Afterwards it is nice to discuss them,even if our opinions of them differ, which is often the case.
By the way, I loved the original cover of THE SLIGHTEST PROVOCATION.

Pam Rosenthal

I love the idea of listening to audiobooks together, librarypat. Perhaps Michael and I can do that.

And yes, I loved the original cover of The Slightest Provocation. But you know what? To look at it, you simply wouldn't know it's a very sexy book. (Also with lots of politics, lol.) Dilemmas of promotion!

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